Preterism is true, the second coming of Christ has already happened, the tribulation, the eschatological events like described in Revelations, fulfilled in 70 AD
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Re: Russia attacked Poland, a NATO member.
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM »
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:thumbsup: I agree about the world today.. :Chinscratch: I hadn?t pinpointed gog and magog, and Russia and China rings true to me.. Besides seeing it shaping up in the world. I agree about thermonuclear also - quote - thunderings, (thermonuclear) lightning, rolling like a scroll, great hail - the faster moisture rises and highest, the bigger the hail.. quote - the earth will shake to and fro.. the first event of it (seal 6? but described as its fuLL effects, first to also, last, veils what that element of the age is) first event was released by an office if man (proceedsout of earth) this I tend to think is the one who will step into the main seat if the huge many headed geopolitical beast (Rev.13:1) which to me us the closer, power (globalist) behind the machinations of war and slso of nations and cultures breakdown(s).. Been poking the bear (beast) for a while now.. nato doing ops at in Ukraine at Russia?s border, putin?s redline being trying to get Ukraine into nato..
Things, I believe, are moving quite (quote) speedily and quickly.. (Sometimes relatively speaking?)
:Chinscratch: I?ve wondered before if thermonuclear might be what the, quote, seven thunders are..
Seal 6 in chapter 6, then (quote) the winds of held back (Rev.7:1,3) until the servants of God are sealed on their forehead (vs.9, and also 4) clarity? to go with the seal upon the heart which cries abba father. - The heat will not smite those who are virgins as to the last hours female idol/god spirit..
Good news is, imo anyway, the Lord?s long second advent consists of TWO millennia - what?s called THE millennium, and the judgment.
Jesus said, ?All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth? (from the graves) ?some into the resurrection of life (into THE millennium). And some into the resurrection of judgment? (Jn.5:28-29) which ->elsewhere He calls agelasting-correction or that is ?aionion/eonian-kolasis/correction? (Mt.25:46). Which resurrection into the judgment/correction is ?aFter THE thousand years/THE millennium? (Rev.20:5).
So there?s another millennium? As there needs to occur all of Rev.20:5 and 7-13.. So an EIGHTH ?day? follows the 7th/Sabbath millennium (Jn.7:37). Any one who?s name - by end of the ?8th? - is still not in the book of Life will be corrected via the universal fiery regenesis which follows it ? Lake of fire as event, not a ?place?. But I believe Jesus ?will draw all? (Jn.12:32) so no ?souls hurt by the second death?.
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Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
:thumbsup: I agree about the world today.. :Chinscratch: I hadn?t pinpointed gog and magog, and Russia and China rings true to me..
Yes, I saw this article recently which I shows heavy evidence towards China supporting Russia' invasion of Ukraine
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/02/24/russia-china-military-relations-report-ripley-pkg-eboff-vpx.cnn
Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
Besides seeing it shaping up in the world. I agree about thermonuclear also - quote - thunderings, (thermonuclear) lightning, rolling like a scroll, great hail - the faster moisture rises and highest, the bigger the hail.. quote - the earth will shake to and fro.. the first event of it (seal 6? but described as its fuLL effects, first to also, last, veils what that element of the age is) first event was released by an office if man (proceedsout of earth) this I tend to think is the one who will step into the main seat if the huge many headed geopolitical beast (Rev.13:1) which to me us the closer, power (globalist) behind the machinations of war and slso of nations and cultures breakdown(s).. Been poking the bear (beast) for a while now.. nato doing ops at in Ukraine at Russia?s border, putin?s redline being trying to get Ukraine into nato..
I also agree with the beast line, the ten horns, and seven heads I believe is a metaphor for the countries that will be committing blasphemy. It's interesting how Putin appears in pictures with Christian Churches, yet has also issued bans on any kind of evangelism that is done outside of churches. (Maybe an angel like in Acts 5 can free evangelists who are arrested :Chinscratch: ) I think we can look at the fruit that the Ruzzia Federation bears, Putin maybe at least as a false prophet (Mat 7:15-20) based on their invasion of Ukraine and put it as potentially one of the ten horns, or seven heads.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/thousands-fast-after-putin-signs-law-banning-evangelism-outside-of-churches
Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
Things, I believe, are moving quite (quote) speedily and quickly.. (Sometimes relatively speaking?)
:Chinscratch: I?ve wondered before if thermonuclear might be what the, quote, seven thunders are..
Seal 6 in chapter 6, then (quote) the winds of held back (Rev.7:1,3) until the servants of God are sealed on their forehead (vs.9, and also 4) clarity? to go with the seal upon the heart which cries abba father. - The heat will not smite those who are virgins as to the last hours female idol/god spirit..
The winds I can see as a reference to Satan, since he is the prince of airs. (Eph 2:1?2). And Putin has a missile literally called "Satan-2" So thermonuclear gusts of wind and the loud sound, like thunder, Satan's physical attack on the world? Maybe Putin's possessed like Lucifer, the Babylonian King (Ish,14:12) :Chinscratch:
https://www.businessinsider.com/satan-ii-sarmat-deadly-putin-russia-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-2023-2
Quote from: marie glen on March 07, 2023, 06:10:10 PM
Good news is, imo anyway, the Lord?s long second advent consists of TWO millennia - what?s called THE millennium, and the judgment.
Jesus said, ?All those in the tombs/graves will hear God?s voice and will come forth? (from the graves) ?some into the resurrection of life (into THE millennium). And some into the resurrection of judgment? (Jn.5:28-29) which ->elsewhere He calls agelasting-correction or that is ?aionion/eonian-kolasis/correction? (Mt.25:46). Which resurrection into the judgment/correction is ?aFter THE thousand years/THE millennium? (Rev.20:5).
So there?s another millennium? As there needs to occur all of Rev.20:5 and 7-13.. So an EIGHTH ?day? follows the 7th/Sabbath millennium (Jn.7:37). Any one who?s name - by end of the ?8th? - is still not in the book of Life will be corrected via the universal fiery regenesis which follows it ? Lake of fire as event, not a ?place?. But I believe Jesus ?will draw all? (Jn.12:32) so no ?souls hurt by the second death?.
I agree, I like to think of the Book of Life as a guestbook at a wedding. As people come to the banquet of rich food (Ish 25:6-8), they're name is signed on their as soon as they believe in Christ (Jn 1:12). I like to call it Lake of the fire, like godfire, the furnace of affliction, a blacksmith molding metal to a desired shape. (Is 48:10). Metaphorically, of course, so no souls physically hurt, like you say. :thumbsup:
The correction is like olam(OT) aionios(NT), God doesn't change, so in old age Israelites were punished temporarily (Zep 3:15), so in new age Gentiles punished temporarily (Jn 12:47). So after all ages, everyone's name in the Book of Life (1 Cor 13:8). :dsunny:
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