Quote from: jabcat on Today at 12:41:49 PM

    The lake of fire (lake of divine purification) was created for the devil and his angels.  some UR believers believe that means they'll be destroyed, leaving nothing but good;  while others believe through the fire of chastisement, they'll be renewed.  I personally don't take a hard view either way, believing either could be true.  :)

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For me I think all of creation will be saved. Creation meaning rational creatures, like genuine beings. This definitely includes humans. But beyond that, it can become semantic definitions of what counts as "rational"


a) Devil and his angels are not actual entities, but just concepts like sin and death. The idea of "sin" will not be saved, because that's what's blotted out aka washed away by faith. So Satan and the demons could just represent abstract notion of "evil" like how there's an "accuser" in each of us, an "evil" in spirits.

b) Devil and his angels are actual genuine beings like humans, in which case they would be saved, but their sin will be completely removed, the concept of "evil" and "sin" on them will be destroyed. So why did God let the Serpent into the Garden of Eden? Maybe to show Satan how evil sin really is, to convince him to become a believer in Christ.


Personally, I lean towards b) but that's just my  :2c: There's a lot more info in the Bible about us humans than the evil spirits. But I think no matter what happens, there's a completely happy ending for everyone  :dsunny:

Psalm 145:3-17 The Lord upholds all those who fall

Interesting if we consider the "fallen angels" as "those who fall".  :Chinscratch:


who fall הַנֹּפְלִ֑ים (han?nō?p̄ə?l?m) Article | Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine plural Strong's 5307: To fall, lie


Really close to that verse is this one:

Psalm 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, you great sea creatures and all ocean depths,


8577. תַּנִּין (tannin) = great sea creature = serpent. YLT uses "dragon".

Since satan = serpent = dragon, it looks like Satan will eventually be praising the LORD. My thoughts are, he can't do that if he's completely destroyed, so he'll be saved, but he'll experience temporary suffering, death, from all his sins, but eventually will have faith alone in Christ to gain permanent life as a righteous being.


Futurist view is Satan is yet to be crushed. I'm personally a preterist, and in preterism, Romans 16:20 says "will soon crush" συντρίψει (syntripsei) Verb - Future Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular Strong's 4937: From sun and the base of tribos; to crush completely, i.e. To shatter." so that was 70 AD so Satan already crushed. a) and b) still apply, it depends on what exactly was crushed completely. His whole being as a concept of sin? Or just the concept of sin in him. And to what degree was he crushed, spiritually, physically? Really makes me think..