[quote author=Lazarus Short link=topic=14498.msg204755#msg204755 date=1497358928]

[color=teal][size=14pt][font=arial black]Bristol, welcome to the best little corner of the www!


I put NDE's in the same class - accounts that cannot be verified by anyone.  Fiction!  People who believe in Hell will have NDE's about Hell.  Garbage in, garbage out.  Simple.





The Bible also says that there are good spirits and evil spirits. As such, evil spirits would also have the ability to give people NDE's that falsely talk about Hell, in order to prevent them from realizing the Lord's love for all people.


1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


Because also those deceitful spirits would know that the NDE would get published and scare more people, causing more suffering to people and preventing them from understanding the true magnitude of God's love, which is extended to everyone!


1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons


When someone is about to die, they are very vulnerable. People remember most these experiences. For a demon, this would be the perfect opportunity to plant a false doctrine (ECT) in their head to terrorize them. Because people who are scared of Hell, they don't do things out of love, but out of fear.


1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.


And then this person could tell their friends and families about the horrifying experience, thus spreading this fear.


This same thing can be applied to dreams. Of course, there can be times where prophets and citizens are warned through these visions by the Lord. But there can also be "nightmares", which are just there to terrorize you, maybe because you watched a scary movie, have an intense phobia (like scrupulosity) or had a terrifying encounter. Those would not come from the Lord, but from your mental mind, the brain, getting events from your memory and thinking about them while you sleep.


And as is the case with many mental illnesses, like Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, people can have intrusive thoughts, which are horrible ideas that they would never do, come into their mind and terrorize them.


Joel 2:28

gAnd it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.


Ecclesiastes 5:7

For when dreams increase and words grow many, there is vanity; but God is the one you must fear. [fear here meaning respect, reverence] [dreams and words meaning those which are not useful]


Dreams and NDE are like, the Internet, for spirits. Anyone can post whatever they want on the Internet, whether or not it's true. Good spirits can post the truth, and bad spirits can post lies. You can get a call on your phone from a friend, wishing you good tidings, or from a scam caller, trying to steal your credit card information.


An NDE is essentially a thought you have before death, just more intense because you're in the process of dying.


A dream is essentially a thought you have while you're not awake, just more intense because you're  in the process of losing consciousness.


And what are thoughts? Just ideas in your head. Anyone can come up with an idea, regardless of it's good or bad. That is why, the Bible tells us to not lean on our own flawed understanding, on our own heart which has been hurt and injured by sin, but instead, rest on His Holy Words, the scripture, for advice.


Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.


1 Timothy 4:7

Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. [silly myths meaning ECT from Greek mythology] Rather train yourself for godliness;